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  2. rawhide

    3" 20g.

    I agree that high density shot loads work differently in chokes than do lead shot loads. My experimenting has shown that the extremely tight "turkey chokes" that were thought necessary for lead shot in turkey loads are not necessary for Federal Heavyweight turkey loads, and that is especially true for the 20 ga 1 1/4 oz #7 Heavyweight load with the Flightcontrol wad. I have even had acceptable patterns (for turkey hunting) with that load and mod chokes. The reason for testing mod chokes was to allow for putting Truball loads through the 20 ga turkey gun if needed for hogs while turkey hunting.
  3. Swampy 16

    Dickinson Estate vs FAIR Iside

    There’s certainly a much better chance of it. When they talk of fit and finish there’s a big difference between a CSMC and a news Stevens simply because a more hands on approach to the fitting as well as experience in manufacturing. There are new guns that are as well made and even better than the old stuff but the prices put them out of reach for most people. Those higher prices are due in part because of a higher quality of material and more labor going into each part of the process. Before computers and modern manufacturing techniques they had no choice but to be more hands on. Also don’t forget the amount of competition there was in the double gun industry back then. They had to be on their game to stay ahead in the market. Companies like Parker, Fox, and LC Smith were at the top because of it but it was also their demise because of how expensive it was to complete the process. To buy a new CSMC sxs is probably north of 5k for a nice one. I have not priced anything like that. But as others have said the new CSMC o/u is a lot of gun for the money for reasons mentioned above.
  4. shinbone

    Winchester 101

    It is true that poor fit can enhance the felt effects of recoil. I never noticed anything unusual about my factory Win 101 stock dimensions, though. Also, I've had my guns bent to fit me, so maybe that is why I've never noticed a recoil issue, but that is for both before or after the bending. And, my recoil sensitive girlfriend shoots a factory dimensioned 20ga Win 101 and has never commented on the recoil, either. My guess is that some gun writer somewhere at sometime didn't get along with a Win 101, and so he innocently commented on the recoil, and it snowballed from there. Once a few "experts" commented on the recoil, then power of suggestion took over and people started expecting and therefor feeling a recoil problem. That's just speculation on my part. JMHO, but the Win 101 is a better designed and better built O/U than the Browning Citori. It is a shame that Winchester wasn't able to sustain production of such a good gun.
  5. john mcg

    StormsGSP in town for a visit

    You tell him Steve. 🙂
  6. Samuel Hoggson

    ANYONE OUT THERE HUNT CROWS?

    Son and I mess with them out back. We don't call, just pass shoot on walks. Shots are usually long. B&P #6 and tight. Am fond of taking them from the window behind me with an Anschutz and subsonic HPs. Back yard is ranged, so it's easy to dial up and make hits at distance. After a few hits the distance grows. Max so far apple tree at 110 yds. Get mostly fly-offs/run-offs past 70 yds but this is pest control. So far they haven't doped out my perch, but am careful to take singles.
  7. Kemo Sabe

    3" 20g.

    Looking back over this Perk, I would clarify that in a properly made HeviShot load, blown patterns aren’t the issue. Very tight patterns at closer ranges are, that don’t respond by opening the choke like lead does. On the other hand, HS makes for great turkey loads, and really comes into its own at moderate and longer range shooting. In my experience, the weakest link in Environmetal’s HS line up is the 1 1/4 ounce 20 gauge load. That being because it seems they aren’t using the proper wad for the size of the load. But, the load still kills a tremendous number of ducks. The old Remington Wingmaster HD 1 1/8 ounce load is far superior. It’s the one Tom uses as his benchmark for reloading 3 inch 20 gauge shells. I’ve put a lot of time and effort into all of this Perk. I’ve killed a lot of ducks with HS over the last 12 years, and participated in Tom’s field lethality studies. The information I’ve provide here is solid. But nevertheless, you should go with whatever works for you and you believe in. Wishing you a great Waterfowl season. It’s just about here.
  8. Clueless1

    Nantucket

    Both of my kids will be off to college in a few years. I am planning on heading up to Cape Cod and Nantucket when they are both away so that we can do after Labor Day. Glad to see it slows down.
  9. vabirddog

    ANYONE OUT THERE HUNT CROWS?

    Usually a couple times in feb/march to fill that void. Good way to shoot up some old/odd ammo.
  10. Ted Moore

    StormsGSP in town for a visit

    You must have left quite an impression.
  11. Rick (VA)

    Burley Airgrip w foam Insulation vs Muck Wetland

    Wetlands lasted about three years before the started cracking and then the bottoms came off. Bought some Edge Waters at TSC for $100 and they cracked in less then a year so I got a new pair for free. The new ones are starting to fall apart after nine months. I wear them 1-2 hours per day doing horse chores so they get a bit of use, but don’t hold up as they should IMO. Customer service has not been the best.
  12. SelbyLowndes

    Nantucket

    I remember Nantucket. Honeymoon with first wife there in 1970. Looks like it may have grown a little, but the wild places are still lovely...SelbyLowndes
  13. Skybuster

    Wisconsin WNV Test Kits

    Assuming there are limited numbers of kits per county I hope those of you with limited days afield will return unused kits so they can be handed out again.
  14. SelbyLowndes

    Duck Camp is Set Up for '18/'19

    Sounds like a little (big) piece of heaven to me...SelbyLowndes
  15. dogrunner

    Ideal Clear Cut Age

    I have seen them in 2 year old cuts but usually 5/20 year old if your strictly hunting aspen. The old saying is wrist size but I have a small wrist. Grouse are in many places don’t restrict yourself to just that stuff.
  16. john mcg

    Dickinson Estate vs FAIR Iside

    But 'are they' cheaper materials and is the exactitude of fitted metal parts worse? I get the 'soul' part--goes with esoterica.
  17. Swampy 16

    Dickinson Estate vs FAIR Iside

    One was built using modern (potentially and most likely) cheaper materials on a production line and the other was most likely hand fitted and built by people that were experts in their specific part of the process. Guns that were made before everything went computerized go through much more eyes on, hands on processes than the newer guns today. I’m not putting down modern manufacturing practices but there’s just more that can potentially be missed in manufacturing. There’s just less heart and soul that goes into it these days, less pride as well. The older guns have their quirks but I for one am willing to deal with it. Obviously if you can only own one double than get a newer more versatile piece so you can change chokes and shoot nonlead ammo. I bought one just in case, a Fausti 20 gauge made by Rizzini. When the Fausti daughter married a Rizzini they took over that company and mine was built using the Rizzini parts. That’s how Steve at Fausti explained it and I really like the gun but for example the barrels at the muzzle end are bigger around than my JP Sauer 16 gauge. Sorry for the long winded post but it comes down to options. You need to make a decision based on many factors.
  18. DocE

    Duck Camp is Set Up for '18/'19

    It makes a nice blind along with being where we sleep and have coffee and eat some meals. We only need one more blind in order to cover 80% of the pond. Nice to be in bed and hear geese coming in or look out of the window to see what's on the pond. In addition to having a duck / goose magnet, we also have 1500 acres to hunt quail and pheasant. Our pond is fed by a warm water spring, so it never freezes. .
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  20. Jack L

    ND Sharp-tail Camp

    Nice pics . I'll be chasing chickens and sharpies in a couple of weeks. Dogs look like they're having a great time.
  21. Clueless1

    ND Sharp-tail Camp

    Nice pictures Remo. I'm kicking around the idea of an enclosed trailer fitted for camping. I'll bet you have already stuck pictures somewhere on this site but care to share any here? I guess the wild licorice is the reason I stuck with a lab last time. While my dog is happily drinking water and rolling about I am usually laying on top of my buddy's Golden while we cut stuff out of her. By the time we bring her home from ND she looks like a rag doll that a 3 year old decided to give a haircut to. Her tail usually looks like 4-5 Christmas trees stacked on top of each other from all the cutting we have to do. We each carry a set of shears in the field too, because they get in her armpits and really do some damage there. We won't knowingly take her into that stuff anymore. I pulled one off my lab last time, and it was barely on him.
  22. Jack L

    Nantucket

    Congrats. Looks like fun.
  23. john mcg

    Dickinson Estate vs FAIR Iside

    I am interested to hear/read about actuals regarding those things. Statements were made about "better than/superiority". It seems to me that this may be a great help to many readers. I don't have the knowledge to offer.
  24. Swampy 16

    pants

    And especially to a rabbit hunter.
  25. lee sykes

    Help me out here on identification

    They don't need to be near trees. Just water. Cavities made by broken off limbs, hold rainwater and that is their usual microhabitat.
  26. SelbyLowndes

    Duck Camp is Set Up for '18/'19

    That looks like a duck shoot to me!...SelbyLowndes Why would you want your trailer right down on the pond?
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