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tut

Someone chime in here.  I shot skeet overseas on the 80's.  I mean I shot skeet a lot.  This was in Japan (Yokosuka Rod and Gun Club) and I believe every factory skeet choked 12 or 20 gauge I ran into (these were o/u's mind you) had factory 26" barrels.

So, before we has sporting clays, wobbletrap, 5 stand and all the others, weren't most factory skeet guns 26", and weren't most Skeet guns designed to shoot close range and break targets at 20-25 yards.  Seems like a Grouse/Woodcock gun to me.  

PS. The guns I'm talking were SKB's, Winchester 101's, Browning Citiori's (all the Japanese made guns, they was cheap then) etc.  

Double PS.  Has the game changed that much or did all those folks who shot back in those days have the wrong game in mind???

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Hunshatt

in a word......MARKETING....... get the hot shot to shoot a short barreled gun and increase sales.......sales blurbs.....

do you remeber when skeet was played low gun?  before premount?

what were they shooting skeet with when the game came out, in the 20's? 28" + " hunting guns......how about when s/c came out, before 32" barrels and premount or close to premount....... 28 and 30" hunting guns.....sure some misguided, tortured souls shot 26's and shorter....... but like in hunting, they were anomalies

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Brad Eden
My 'go to' shotgun has 24" barrels. I like it cuz the barrels don't get snagged when in my thick home covers...and its easy to maneuver in the cab of my truck when I am up north....bababoooom!

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lee sykes

My grouse gun has 28" barrels.   My best grouse season ever was with a clunky old 16 gauge that had 24" barrels, no choke, weighed seven pounds and had too much drop for Hunshatt.

It's the hunter, not the gun. HUMANS are remarkably adaptable.

With good legs and eyes and a little rumbling in the stomach, I can kill plenty of grouse with a Mossberg 16 gauge bolt action. So can you.

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bobman

As a kid in Wisconsin I did all my grouse ( and everything else) hunting with a Ithica model 37 with a 28 inch mod barrel, grouse were in huge trouble if they flushed in front of me.

If you are familiar with a gun you will shoot it well.

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Phred
My 'go to' shotgun has 24" barrels. I like it cuz the barrels don't get snagged when in my thick home covers...and its easy to maneuver in the cab of my truck when I am up north....bababoooom!

Do you drive a flushing truck or a pointy truck?

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charlo slim
......... HUMANS are remarkably adaptable......

Agreed!!  Though some of us may not necessarily adapt very quickly....  Which is why I choose to shoot one gun and one load/velocity for all my bird hunting -- quail to geese. Could likely get by nicely with one choke constriction as well.... it just somehow seems a bit comforting to have something besides shot size to tinker with.

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Guest

I must be the oddball here. Well..that is a given!

I have guns that I consider "grouse guns" in 26, 28, and 30. The gun I go to 90& of the time is the 26 inch 20 gauge citori with an english stock that has modified and full choke barrels. Plus I also use 6 shot. For me I have found that a short gun with plenty of choke and bigger shot gets through the brush much easier.

So whatever you like and works for you use it :)

Olaf (the odd one out)

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tut

Let's see.  I've got the 33rd Fox A grade 16 gauge ever made in 1912.  It came with 26" barrels, is factory choked at IC/MOD (on the Fox letter I have).  Factory weight is 5 lbs 10 oz and it is balanced dead nutz on the hingepin.  I can't imagine old Ansley building that thing if he didn't think it would be a good Grouse gun?

PS.  Who would have ever thought we'd have over 120 inputs on a little think like barrel length.

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Hunshatt

we're all bored..... I mean honestly..... for the most part who really cares.... I kill a lot a lot lot a  stuff with long guns and like them, in the tight stuff i hunt..... some people like short guns..... it's ok with me..... there are people that like mopeds, fat chicks and dwarf porn . I bear those people (often the same group as the short gun people :<img src=:'> ) no malice either

besides

Ansley was a slave to fashion........ :D   :D

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caleb

With good legs and eyes and a little rumbling in the stomach, I can kill plenty of grouse with a Mossberg 16 gauge bolt action. So can you.

Sure you can kill grouse with just about anything, but too tight a choke really messes with the meat when I shoot them on the ground and out of the trees.  Killing isn't everything, there's the eating to consider.  One more reason to love a sawed off hardware store gun.

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lee sykes
With good legs and eyes and a little rumbling in the stomach, I can kill plenty of grouse with a Mossberg 16 gauge bolt action. So can you.

Sure you can kill grouse with just about anything, but too tight a choke really messes with the meat when I shoot them on the ground and out of the trees.  Killing isn't everything, there's the eating to consider.  One more reason to love a sawed off hardware store gun.

A lot of those old Mossbergs came factory equipped with a poly-choke. It's not a gun I can love but they handle surprisingly well.

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Bonasa

I like 20" bbls so I can "Arkansas" a family of grouse out of a tree from the truck window...Shooting the lower branch birds first (of course) so they don't fall past and disturb the other birds...

Educated in da UP eh...

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Hunshatt
hahahahaha.....

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x Bred Pointer
Timmy, it just hit me why you were missing all those woodcock up here last fall. It must be those 30" tubes and that oversized LOP. I did see you get a couple grouse over a young dog with a short, stacked barreled, borrowed Browning though. What's with that?

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