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Rex Hoppie
Should have quoted Popples post.  See following post.

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Rex Hoppie

The O/Us that Rex referred from Sears were Rangers as I recall.  They were made by Marlin and were a Model 90, have a pair of them in 16 ga.  Both have DTs, one has side ribs and the latter one does not.  My Old Browning O/U from the 30s has DTs and in 12 ga, but is on the heavy side.

The Rangers were another offering from Sears but not the gun I was referring to in earlier post.

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bosco mctavitch
Guess I'm kind of partial to THIS.

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PartridgeCartridge

"THAT" is gonna take a little time to save up for.

But if you sell one of the little missus's kidneys and gold dental work now, you could prolly come up with a small down payment.

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Scratch, you should have gotten Pat to let you shoot the riz...... that is the quintessential 20ga o/u gme gun,  a tad heavy at 6 3/8lbs( with the 29" barrels + external screw in's), solid rib, double triggers and it is stuck with a POW.... close to your LOP at 15 1/8 :<img src=:'>..... though it it's worth about 2 1/2 times what the cole is

I'll never buy another Rizzini. Rizzini guns only claim to fame IMO is that they had a 28 ga. frame once upon a time. Not sure if they still have it, but I haven't looked at a Rizzini since I junked mine over ten years ago. Mine didn't even look like the US imports either; it was far nicer. Cole guns are an entire different breed. Cole is not a manufacturer, so he is providing a service, ( a very good one IMO) and I look at Cole guns like a continuing project. For example, If I didn't sell that 20 ga. Cole, I was going to have it engraved as the next step. gordons and woodcock, with gold barrel bands and I can't remember what all...but the idea (in my mind) is to build your own gun, your way, on a far better platform than the Rizzini. Sure you can find a great Rizzini, but it would have taken about 7 grand 15 years ago. Not sure where they are at now.

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PartridgeCartridge

With all due respect there Scotsman, I think you need to learn a bit more about Rizzini's before you color them all with a broad stroke.

There are several different Rizzini families making guns. Some are cheap, some are really well made. Look into it if you are interested.

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With all due respect there Scotsman, I think you need to learn a bit more about Rizzini's before you color them all with a broad stroke.

There are several different Rizzini families making guns. Some are cheap, some are really well made. Look into it if you are interested.

I know all about Rizzini..all of them. I owned one of the mid grade euro Fairs before NEA imported them. I think it was a 5000 dollar gun back them. Far superior to NEAs imports.

 I do not like either of the low to mid end Rizzini manufacturers much, but that isn't my point. My point is that Rizzini is a gun manufacturer, and whether they hit the mark or not their guns sell for retail and carry a certain value. Cole is a different entity, and comparing Coles stuff to an actual manufacturers gun may be a bit like apples and oranges.

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Hunshatt
Sure you can find a great Rizzini, but it would have taken about 7 grand 15 years ago. Not sure where they are at now.

A little more than that(not much) for the one I have....

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Sure you can find a great Rizzini, but it would have taken about 7 grand 15 years ago. Not sure where they are at now.

A little more than that(not much) for the one I have....

I loved my Fair LX 702. I sold a very beautiful Browning Superposed Superlight to get the scratch together for it. I was hugely disappointed when I actually scrutinized the fit and finish. I suppose I should have gone to the LX 902, but ever since I saw a Belgain Superposed with the gold wire borders, I've been in love with that understated look. Kind of a funeral gun feel. If I would have moved up a bit in model, I might have avoided some heartache.

 It sounds to me like you did what I should have done and gone straight to the price point where you start to get some return on your investment, and not just a little fancier wood and scratching. Post a pic if you have one, I'd love to see it.

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Hunshatt

guns out on a sabbatical right now, but heres a few....

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quailguy

I have a farly nice B. Rizinni, 28 ga Aurum. Nice scroll engraving, decent wood, great feel and trigger, 28 inch barrels, 5 choke tubes, 5 pounds 10 oz in a hard case.

Pretty decent gun for the coin.

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looch

With all due respect there Scotsman, I think you need to learn a bit more about Rizzini's before you color them all with a broad stroke.

There are several different Rizzini families making guns. Some are cheap, some are really well made. Look into it if you are interested.

I know all about Rizzini..all of them. I owned one of the mid grade euro Fairs before NEA imported them. I think it was a 5000 dollar gun back them. Far superior to NEAs imports.

 I do not like either of the low to mid end Rizzini manufacturers much, but that isn't my point. My point is that Rizzini is a gun manufacturer, and whether they hit the mark or not their guns sell for retail and carry a certain value. Cole is a different entity, and comparing Coles stuff to an actual manufacturers gun may be a bit like apples and oranges.

Forgive me, Scotsman, but you know about the other 3 Rizzini makers aside from FAIR/Verona, right? You can't buy a new F.lli Rizzini for under $50K. But they don't make O/U's that I know of. The others are B. Rizzini (Cole) and E. Rizzini (Fausti). Then there's the Zoli/Rizzini thing. Lumping the F.lli and the B. in with the rest is not something I would do. But maybe you know something I don't.

As an aside - the family & business relationships in that little valley in Italy are quite interesting.

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Pat Berry
Wonder where Pat has that one hid..... :down:

Considering the value of that Rizzini, I felt compelled to hide it from 2 Jersey guys.

Coincidentally, I plan to take the Rizzini for a walk on Friday.

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DennisMcFeely
Wonder where Pat has that one hid..... :down:

Considering the value of that Rizzini, I felt compelled to hide it from 2 Jersey guys.

That's not right, Pat.  I mean it's not like we said a guy from XX would turn it into a giant bong or anything... :<img src=:'>

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Briarscratch

My purple cow.

1990/91 Merkel 201E 20 gauge.  Straight English stock, DT, factory stock dimensions.  Choked tight and tighter.  It was dead mint when I bought it, but since then I've run a piddling couple hundred shells through it.  Tight as a safe and clean as a whistle.  It feels deadly in your hands.

Sadly, it doesn't fit me.  So it's trade bait.  

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