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Remo

Some farmers are very careful where they buy their seed and pay a higher price accordingly. And some would buy it buy from the the devil if they could get it cheaper. I was on a county weed control board for 20+ years. Our state association tried repeatedly to get tougher inspection standards legislated for noxious weeds in CRP and forage seed. The seed dealers fought those proposed laws tooth and nail and so did farm organizations.  Fear of regulations can lead to karma.

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Kansas Big Dog

Is the weed not killed with Glyphosate (crop fields) or 2,4 D in grass fields?

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Randy S

 

"A U.S. conservation program hurts farmers in Iowa"

 

The authors of this article are from Winterset, IA, and I'd bet they're farmers or associated to the farm industry. They state in the article: 

"In another state, Minnesota, authorities are also investigating whether the conservation program inadvertently introduced the weed to that state." The enemy they're attacking is CRP, not the weed.

 

The agronomist from ISU says it's not the distributer's fault? If you bought lawn seed from Scotts and ended up with thistles who would you blame, Lowes? Because Lowes commercials encouraged you to have a green, healthy lawn? Would you expect the federal gov. to assist you in recovering your lawn?

 

In my opinion, Iowa has become the best state to be from. Hunting/fishing dollars are used to purchase land and impound public lakes, which are very soon adversly affected with silt and chemical runoff from farming. Do farmers pay to fix it, no. Does the federal Gov. step in, no. Does the state enact stricter controls on the application of raw manure, herbicides and pesticides? No. Do farmers attempt to control the errosion of their precious top soil? No. Outdoorsman foot the bill to purchase additional land in the watershed and construct siltation ponds to save our lakes, while farmers accept a government check to plant buffer strips and then want additional government funding to kill the weeds in the buffer.

 

You might revisit the thread regarding the Des Moines Water Works sueing three upstream, Iowa counties, because their farming programs are polluting the states drinking water. Our legislators found a cure for that law suit. They dissolved the Des Moines Water Works. If you're not an entity, you can't sue. 

 

Then there's the pollinator program. Does anyone seriously believe that the loss of pollinators isn't due to the unchecked use of pesticides and herbicides creating monocultures of corn and beans with no bugs? Instead of regulating the use of the chemicals, homeowners are encouraged to plant pollinator plots while the Farm Bureau lobbies the government to pay farmers to plant plots to increase the bees that the farmers are killing.

 

The north wind blows in Minnesota, because Iowa sucks. And don't think the Iowa suck isn't spreading across the rest of the plains states. It won't be long before you guys in the Dakotas, NE, and Kansas will be living the Iowa dream. 

 

 

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Kansas Big Dog
2 hours ago, Randy S said:

The north wind blows in Minnesota, because Iowa sucks. And don't think the Iowa suck isn't spreading across the rest of the plains states. It won't be long before you guys in the Dakotas, NE, and Kansas will be living the Iowa dream. 

Won't happen here, not enough rain in the western part of state, much better for milo which is much more wildlife friendly.

 

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Remo
On 4/6/2017 at 7:53 AM, Kansas Big Dog said:

Is the weed not killed with Glyphosate (crop fields) or 2,4 D in grass fields?

 

Nope, like so many others, it has developed glypho resistance. And is surprisingly drought hardy like redroot pigweed. One of the problems with it the &@)!^* plant just keeps coming through the growing season. Too much dependence for too many years on one chemical control.

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Jack L
12 hours ago, Randy S said:

 

"A U.S. conservation program hurts farmers in Iowa"

 

The authors of this article are from Winterset, IA, and I'd bet they're farmers or associated to the farm industry. They state in the article: 

"In another state, Minnesota, authorities are also investigating whether the conservation program inadvertently introduced the weed to that state." The enemy they're attacking is CRP, not the weed.

 

The agronomist from ISU says it's not the distributer's fault? If you bought lawn seed from Scotts and ended up with thistles who would you blame, Lowes? Because Lowes commercials encouraged you to have a green, healthy lawn? Would you expect the federal gov. to assist you in recovering your lawn?

 

In my opinion, Iowa has become the best state to be from. Hunting/fishing dollars are used to purchase land and impound public lakes, which are very soon adversly affected with silt and chemical runoff from farming. Do farmers pay to fix it, no. Does the federal Gov. step in, no. Does the state enact stricter controls on the application of raw manure, herbicides and pesticides? No. Do farmers attempt to control the errosion of their precious top soil? No. Outdoorsman foot the bill to purchase additional land in the watershed and construct siltation ponds to save our lakes, while farmers accept a government check to plant buffer strips and then want additional government funding to kill the weeds in the buffer.

 

You might revisit the thread regarding the Des Moines Water Works sueing three upstream, Iowa counties, because their farming programs are polluting the states drinking water. Our legislators found a cure for that law suit. They dissolved the Des Moines Water Works. If you're not an entity, you can't sue. 

 

Then there's the pollinator program. Does anyone seriously believe that the loss of pollinators isn't due to the unchecked use of pesticides and herbicides creating monocultures of corn and beans with no bugs? Instead of regulating the use of the chemicals, homeowners are encouraged to plant pollinator plots while the Farm Bureau lobbies the government to pay farmers to plant plots to increase the bees that the farmers are killing.

 

The north wind blows in Minnesota, because Iowa sucks. And don't think the Iowa suck isn't spreading across the rest of the plains states. It won't be long before you guys in the Dakotas, NE, and Kansas will be living the Iowa dream. 

 

 

So spot on.  

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IsThisHeaven?
On 4/6/2017 at 9:27 AM, Randy S said:

 

"A U.S. conservation program hurts farmers in Iowa"

 

The authors of this article are from Winterset, IA, and I'd bet they're farmers or associated to the farm industry. They state in the article: 

"In another state, Minnesota, authorities are also investigating whether the conservation program inadvertently introduced the weed to that state." The enemy they're attacking is CRP, not the weed.

 

The agronomist from ISU says it's not the distributer's fault? If you bought lawn seed from Scotts and ended up with thistles who would you blame, Lowes? Because Lowes commercials encouraged you to have a green, healthy lawn? Would you expect the federal gov. to assist you in recovering your lawn?

 

In my opinion, Iowa has become the best state to be from. Hunting/fishing dollars are used to purchase land and impound public lakes, which are very soon adversly affected with silt and chemical runoff from farming. Do farmers pay to fix it, no. Does the federal Gov. step in, no. Does the state enact stricter controls on the application of raw manure, herbicides and pesticides? No. Do farmers attempt to control the errosion of their precious top soil? No. Outdoorsman foot the bill to purchase additional land in the watershed and construct siltation ponds to save our lakes, while farmers accept a government check to plant buffer strips and then want additional government funding to kill the weeds in the buffer.

 

You might revisit the thread regarding the Des Moines Water Works sueing three upstream, Iowa counties, because their farming programs are polluting the states drinking water. Our legislators found a cure for that law suit. They dissolved the Des Moines Water Works. If you're not an entity, you can't sue. 

 

Then there's the pollinator program. Does anyone seriously believe that the loss of pollinators isn't due to the unchecked use of pesticides and herbicides creating monocultures of corn and beans with no bugs? Instead of regulating the use of the chemicals, homeowners are encouraged to plant pollinator plots while the Farm Bureau lobbies the government to pay farmers to plant plots to increase the bees that the farmers are killing.

 

The north wind blows in Minnesota, because Iowa sucks. And don't think the Iowa suck isn't spreading across the rest of the plains states. It won't be long before you guys in the Dakotas, NE, and Kansas will be living the Iowa dream. 

 

 

 

Great post

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Willicd76

we are one of the very few farmers in our area who dont depend heavily on herbicides for weed control. it amounts to many more passes through a field which creates its own problems and many more dollars in fuel, but i have yet to see a weed that is "steel resistant"! most weeds are not difficult to control with tillage, its just much cheaper to do by spraying. bine weed is our biggest issue and its root system is so immense it can be suppressed by tillage but not controlled so spraying becomes necessary at times.  

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Chukarman
On 4/6/2017 at 7:27 AM, Randy S said:

 

"A U.S. conservation program hurts farmers in Iowa"

 

The authors of this article are from Winterset, IA, and I'd bet they're farmers or associated to the farm industry. They state in the article: 

"In another state, Minnesota, authorities are also investigating whether the conservation program inadvertently introduced the weed to that state." The enemy they're attacking is CRP, not the weed.

 

The agronomist from ISU says it's not the distributer's fault? If you bought lawn seed from Scotts and ended up with thistles who would you blame, Lowes? Because Lowes commercials encouraged you to have a green, healthy lawn? Would you expect the federal gov. to assist you in recovering your lawn?

 

In my opinion, Iowa has become the best state to be from. Hunting/fishing dollars are used to purchase land and impound public lakes, which are very soon adversly affected with silt and chemical runoff from farming. Do farmers pay to fix it, no. Does the federal Gov. step in, no. Does the state enact stricter controls on the application of raw manure, herbicides and pesticides? No. Do farmers attempt to control the errosion of their precious top soil? No. Outdoorsman foot the bill to purchase additional land in the watershed and construct siltation ponds to save our lakes, while farmers accept a government check to plant buffer strips and then want additional government funding to kill the weeds in the buffer.

 

You might revisit the thread regarding the Des Moines Water Works sueing three upstream, Iowa counties, because their farming programs are polluting the states drinking water. Our legislators found a cure for that law suit. They dissolved the Des Moines Water Works. If you're not an entity, you can't sue. 

 

Then there's the pollinator program. Does anyone seriously believe that the loss of pollinators isn't due to the unchecked use of pesticides and herbicides creating monocultures of corn and beans with no bugs? Instead of regulating the use of the chemicals, homeowners are encouraged to plant pollinator plots while the Farm Bureau lobbies the government to pay farmers to plant plots to increase the bees that the farmers are killing.

 

The north wind blows in Minnesota, because Iowa sucks. And don't think the Iowa suck isn't spreading across the rest of the plains states. It won't be long before you guys in the Dakotas, NE, and Kansas will be living the Iowa dream. 

 

 

 

I like this post. Most farmers would be quick to claim that they are "stewards of the land" but the reality is that profitability is king.

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Kansas Big Dog
On 9/6/2017 at 7:40 PM, Chukarman said:

 

I like this post. Most farmers would be quick to claim that they are "stewards of the land" but the reality is that profitability is king.

 

Farmers are also small businesses with millions of dollars invested in land, machinery and livestock. I don't think profitability is king, I would say sustainability of their farming operation is king.  You need profits to sustain a business.

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Bullwinkle
On 9/6/2017 at 8:40 PM, Chukarman said:

 

I like this post. Most farmers would be quick to claim that they are "stewards of the land" but the reality is that profitability is king.

 

I hope so.. 

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IsThisHeaven?

Profitability is absolutely king. Given the built in safety nets, if some can't make it, maybe farming is not for them. 

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co_setter
On 4/6/2017 at 8:27 AM, Randy S said:

 

"A U.S. conservation program hurts farmers in Iowa"

 

The authors of this article are from Winterset, IA, and I'd bet they're farmers or associated to the farm industry. They state in the article: 

"In another state, Minnesota, authorities are also investigating whether the conservation program inadvertently introduced the weed to that state." The enemy they're attacking is CRP, not the weed.

 

The agronomist from ISU says it's not the distributer's fault? If you bought lawn seed from Scotts and ended up with thistles who would you blame, Lowes? Because Lowes commercials encouraged you to have a green, healthy lawn? Would you expect the federal gov. to assist you in recovering your lawn?

 

In my opinion, Iowa has become the best state to be from. Hunting/fishing dollars are used to purchase land and impound public lakes, which are very soon adversly affected with silt and chemical runoff from farming. Do farmers pay to fix it, no. Does the federal Gov. step in, no. Does the state enact stricter controls on the application of raw manure, herbicides and pesticides? No. Do farmers attempt to control the errosion of their precious top soil? No. Outdoorsman foot the bill to purchase additional land in the watershed and construct siltation ponds to save our lakes, while farmers accept a government check to plant buffer strips and then want additional government funding to kill the weeds in the buffer.

 

You might revisit the thread regarding the Des Moines Water Works sueing three upstream, Iowa counties, because their farming programs are polluting the states drinking water. Our legislators found a cure for that law suit. They dissolved the Des Moines Water Works. If you're not an entity, you can't sue. 

 

Then there's the pollinator program. Does anyone seriously believe that the loss of pollinators isn't due to the unchecked use of pesticides and herbicides creating monocultures of corn and beans with no bugs? Instead of regulating the use of the chemicals, homeowners are encouraged to plant pollinator plots while the Farm Bureau lobbies the government to pay farmers to plant plots to increase the bees that the farmers are killing.

 

The north wind blows in Minnesota, because Iowa sucks. And don't think the Iowa suck isn't spreading across the rest of the plains states. It won't be long before you guys in the Dakotas, NE, and Kansas will be living the Iowa dream. 

 

 

The guy saying it is nobody's fault is not from ISU but NRCS.  And anyone blaming the program is off base. That's like blaming the grocery store because you are fat.  The problem is with  the seed seller.  If you don't do your legwork to know what you are selling, the problem is on you.

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