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Tom Avent

Bell or stealth mode?

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Tom Avent

I have heard cover dog trialers say that birds will hold better for dogs with bells or beepers because the noise and commotion tends to get them to sit more. I have been running my pointer in stealth mode(no bell or beeper, just the Alpha to keep track). Considering putting the bell back on. Any opinions?

 

 

 

 

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dogrunner

They should know they make plenty of noise. :D

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Jakeismydog2

I don't have a direct answer for you. I use a location beeper that is only on when you push the button to locate the dog. It has happened a few times where you can't see the dog and assume he is on point. So you push the button and there goes the pheasant, just like a release trap. 

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Yukon1

I'll be curious about the responses to this as well. I've always hunted with bells, but at the end of October I started using Astros on my two setters. 

So far I haven't noticed any difference as to birds holding better or worse than before but admittedly, it hasn't been long enough to tell. 

 

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OH Grouser

For grouse here in OH, I run an Astro along with a point only beeper threaded on the same collar. My thinking has always been that quiet is better, at least until you get a bird pointed. I've wondered about that question also, especially pertaining to Appalachian grouse. 

 

Roger

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Larry Brown

Bells are nice if you need to keep track of your dog . . . until it goes on point.  Then you're looking for the sound of silence.

 

I'd rather run mine silent when I can, but I haven't observed that a beeper bothers them all that much--although I will turn off the beeper when the dog is on point and I've located him.

 

I was running a big pointer, mostly white, my first trip to the UP for grouse and woodcock, many moons ago.  It was late Sept and the ferns were still up--and particularly tall that year.  I think I came close to stumbling over Jake several times, looking for him on point.

 

I'm something of a luddite (still have an old, "dumb" flip phone) and I have no interest in an Astro, but I often wonder how we got along before beepers.  Of course part of the problem may have to do with the fact that my hearing was a lot better 40 years ago than it is now.

 

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ccavacini
1 hour ago, Jakeismydog2 said:

 I use a location beeper that is only on when you push the button to locate the dog. It has happened a few times where you can't see the dog and assume he is on point. So you push the button and there goes the pheasant, just like a release trap. 

Yes, this.  I also run my dog with a bell.  She's a small Brittany (23 LB's).  The bell helps me know where she is.  When I can't hear the bell, I use the locator.  The locator tells her to come back to me.  A whistle (or my voice) helps her locate me.

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Gunsmoke
  • Tommy you're gonna listen to those coverdog guys :D trust me half of them have never even gone hunting. When I'm up north it really doesn't seem to matter but if I'm hunting covers that have had a decent amount of pressure trust me those birds hear bells and they're gone. Another example: I'm hunting with a Guy who really isn't sure of his dog and is afraid of coming disconnected with his dog so he's singing to him and yelling his name every 10seconds. I looked at him and said I'll meet you at the truck. He's like did I do something 😏 nope,just alerted every living thing on this mountain that were here. That would be why grouse hunting isn't a team sport. You a dog...perfect another person like being in a crowded stadium 

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Curt

Over the past fifty years I've run them with bells, several varieties of beepers, and in the last several years just the Astro (nice & quiet), plus various combinations of all of them.  I honestly can't say that I've noticed any differences in the reaction of grouse to any of them.

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gunsrus

I do use a bell , I'm deaf and like to know where the dog is . I do use an Alpha and it's great when the dog is out of range . I have always hunted with the bell . I did hunt with the beeper/locater for a while but eventually thought it was overkill when the Astro came about . I hunt with the Alpha and the mini and a Sunkhaze bell . I hated putting several collars on my dogs neck and am sure he appreciates minimal weight . JMHO

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Don Steese

And the definitive answer is......nobody knows for sure!!!:P 

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Coalman

Having a close working flushing dog we hunt stealth. By far our flushes this fall in range far out numbered our wild flushes.

 

Took a leap of faith with Belle this fall and took the Garmin off. She earned it.

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Locher

I've always run bells.  I've never noticed a problem with them.  But I could see where birds would get educated in areas that get a lot of pressure.

 

FWIW...bells aren't just for locating.  You learn to read the bell to get an idea of what your dog is up to.   Especially a young dog.  If the bell stops, starts, stops, start and then you hear a bird blow out, you know the dog took out a bird.  You can't get that from GPS.  Or if a bird flushes and then the bell rings harder and faster, you know the dog went with the bird.  Or if all of a sudden the bell ringing picks up and goes in a straight line, your dog could be on a deer.  I've never been a fan of running silent in the woods. 

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Wisconsin

Bell.

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Up North

Late season grouse hunting I have better luck in stealth mode. 

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