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Randy S

Lesser Prairie Chickens

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Randy S

I was just surfing the web to see if I'll have an opportunity in the near future to shoot a lesser chicken. Seems probable that our lesser prairie chicken hunting will never return. It appears they're about to join the ranks of the Atwater's chicken. I've certainly shot my share of greaters and I don't know that the difference between the two chickens is more than a few ounces and feathers, but it's still sad.

 

https://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2017/1071/ofr20171071.pdf

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Jack L

Given the changes in habitat and climate this possibility does not surprise me.  Although it was somewhat hopeful for them to admit something else is at play as the bird should  already be extinct under their projections .

 

Maybe the LEPC won't be  found in numbers that allow hunting, but perhaps it can continue to fight off extinction. I suspect the LEPC will need some good karma in light of the bird habitat destruction I see in the upper Midwest .

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Kansas Big Dog

In the last three years I have seen significantly more prairie chickens in the short grass areas of KS than pheasants. Many, many more. Seem to be doing well there. Pheasants, not so much. Pheasants will probably become extinct before the Prairie chickens. 

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dogrunner

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oak stob

Any simple and sure way to field differentiate between the two birds in geographical areas where both may be found?

 

I saw as more chickens than pheasants in many KS fields...I assume they were Greaters...just not sure based upon location so, I never shot.

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Kansas Bound
1 hour ago, dogrunner said:

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Another one of those top heavy organizations that does nothing to help upland hunters. 

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dogrunner
6 minutes ago, Kansas Bound said:

Another one of those top heavy organizations that does nothing to help upland hunters. 

Well of course. They just take people’s money. ;)

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NECarson
21 hours ago, Kansas Big Dog said:

In the last three years I have seen significantly more prairie chickens in the short grass areas of KS than pheasants. Many, many more. Seem to be doing well there. Pheasants, not so much. Pheasants will probably become extinct before the Prairie chickens. 

Yeah. No. Not even close. 

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Randy S
21 hours ago, Kansas Big Dog said:

In the last three years I have seen significantly more prairie chickens in the short grass areas of KS than pheasants. Many, many more. Seem to be doing well there. Pheasants, not so much. Pheasants will probably become extinct before the Prairie chickens. 

 

KBD, Were your observations in the closed area of the southwest? I heard anecdotal reports from ranchers that there was a minor hatch and hail killed many birds. I believe someone from Kansas reported that he hunted several days of the early chicken season in Kansas and didn't see a bird. I thought that report was from western Kansas. I know one hunter doesn't make a census, but if a guy believes the influence a single report has on hot spotters, it would seem that after that report know one would have hunted chickens in Kansas last season. 

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Kansas Big Dog

No, I did not see any in the SW. 

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Kansas Big Dog
2 hours ago, Randy S said:

 

KBD, Were your observations in the closed area of the southwest? I heard anecdotal reports from ranchers that there was a minor hatch and hail killed many birds. I believe someone from Kansas reported that he hunted several days of the early chicken season in Kansas and didn't see a bird. I thought that report was from western Kansas. I know one hunter doesn't make a census, but if a guy believes the influence a single report has on hot spotters, it would seem that after that report know one would have hunted chickens in Kansas last season. 

 

The birds I have been seeing the last few years are in an area that is not open for hunting south of US 24.

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