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Ben, agree about the Flyers, they looked like they were trying to get penalized.  There were a couple of non-calls against them that were even worse than some they called.  Could it be that the Pens tepid power play was being called out?  Was really pulling for a shutout until Fleury cooked his own goose with that tripping penalty.  

Dana, why not like the Leafs?  You're not the 1st Canadian to state they dislike them.  Was on a biz trip to Toronto a month ago and was talking hockey with some of our customers & sales folks; there were few leafs fans even in their hometown!  One guy is a diehard Pens fan, many supported the Senators and Habs.  Is there something about the Leafs I'm not privvy to?

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Ben Hong
 Is there something about the Leafs I'm not privvy to?

I'll answer in the most balanced way possible.

In the days of radio only (pre 1952) in Canada the only hockey they carried nationally were the broadcasts of the Leafs, unless you lived in Quebec of course. That means they had a head start in building up and solidifying a national fan base, but not to worry because the national broadcasts of the playoffs usually involved the Habs winning another Cup so they had their own equally large fanbase developed by excellence!!!

TV came along and it was the same old thing until about the early sixties when our national CBC started to carry both the Habs and the Leafs more or less on an equal basis. Even with that, all of English speaking Canada had to put up with a constant and voluminous flood of Leaf impedimenta in print, on radio, on tv to the point of nausea. It is even more so now because Toronto in  reality is the media centre of Canada, and to some Torontonians, it is the centre of the hockey universe.

For example, two years ago when Montreal was retiring the sweater of one of their many Hall of Famers which normally should be a national (hockey) celebration of greatness, the Leafs upstaged the event by having a cheap and tawdry  "Recognition Night" for Tie Domi, the THUG on the same night. What's worse, a national tv network snubbed Montreal and carried the whole embarrassing Toronto affair. That constant barrage of false, and hopeless, Leaf hype has in fact turned many if not most hockey fans against the Leafs.

Did you know that they have a parade in downtown Toronto in celebration of one of their rare wins in the playoffs. 42 years and counting without an appearance in the Cup final, pathetic. Leaf fans are almost as misguided as bruins fans :devil:  :<img src=:'>

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 Is there something about the Leafs I'm not privvy to?

It is even more so now because Toronto in  reality is the media centre of Canada, and to some Torontonians, it is the centre of the hockey universe.

What he said. 3 sports networks here. Biggest is TSN which stands for The Sports Network, though most say it stands for Toronto Sports Network. Toronto teams always lead off the broadcasts. If the Maple Laughs are out of the race then the lead story is about Blue Jays spring training  :angry:

Simply think about how most Americans view New York City, then multiply it a couple times.

Still, the Leafs have a lot of fans nationally, due to the days when you had to pick between them and the Canadiens.

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WindyHills

Some years ago while working in your fair country I was told by a local the Leafs were akin to our Chicago Cubs.  So hapless it was fashionable to support them.

Not the case anymore?

I see their salvation though.  Couple of old Habs are job searching now, their brand might fit in pretty well in Toronto....  :D:devil:

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Some years ago while working in your fair country I was told by a local the Leafs were akin to our Chicago Cubs.  So hapless it was fashionable to support them.

Not the case anymore?

I see their salvation though.  Couple of old Habs are job searching now, their brand might fit in pretty well in Toronto....  :D:devil:

Well, they HAVE been hapless, but it's never been fashionable to support them in my lifetime.

Can't see them ever hiring an ex-hab. As much as I hate that arrogant duo running them now, I think they should actually improve a bit.

Hopped back and forth last night between all the playoff games. NYR v Wash BY FAR the best. Van v St. L pretty good. The other two were dogs. I haven't seen much of them recently, but came out of it with a newfound respect for NY. They looked more solid than I had thought. Still just one game, but....

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Thanks for the comments & back story about the Leafs.  But wait, I can totally understand why someone would want to celebrate Tie Domi and his many achievements.  He embodies all that I enjoy about hockey.  Except for the hockey part, or the skating part, or the passing part, or the shooting part...

Hey, I was happy the Rangers and Devils won their 1st games, now we need to see the Habs take the Bruins tonight.

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Trappercase
Can't see them ever hiring an ex-hab. As much as I hate that arrogant duo running them now, I think they should actually improve a bit.

Huh?

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Ben Hong

Games I watched last night:

[/b]Bos v Mtl. For once I agree with Don Cherry (ugh), Montreal should have won.

Cal. v Chi. Calgary was robbed on the overtime goal. The goalie was clearly interfered with.

SJ v Ana. Great game.I think that I underestimated Anaheim's team.

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Cal. v Chi. Calgary was robbed on the overtime goal. The goalie was clearly interfered with.

Agreed.  Was rooting for Chi but certainly not to win on a play like that.

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Trappercase
Look again.  I thought so at first but he was clearly pushed upon further review.

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gselkhunter

I guess you can stick a fork in Philly. Watching them loose that game on lack of effort and stupidity after they had it won. Shows the lack of self control needed to go far into the playoffs.

NJ better take heed.

Vancouver looks strong.

Ben I worned you about the Ducks.

See if NYR can handle the Caps again today.

GO RANGERS!

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Hmmmm...going back to Philly knowing they had the game won should help their psyche a little.  What has to hurt though is the save Fleury made -- holy $#!+ -- that was for the game!  The Pens would have been down 3-1 and very likely 1-1 in the series.  As much as I love spectacular goals, those spectacular stops can be even more amazing.  & getting Billy Guerin has been huge.

Also hope to see the Rangers, Devils and Habs prevail. If that happens, and Pgh goes fwd, don't mind home ice at all for round 2.

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Steve Hunts
Heck of a blood feud between the Flyers and the Pens today!  Good come back for Philly.  Next game should be another good one.

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Ben Hong

Sure are a few surprises this year.

NYR 2-0 over Wash? who would have thunk it? Tortorella is outcoaching Boudreau.

Montreal is a beaten team, even after 2 games. In 56 years of watching them, I've never felt so hopeless.

Calgary ???WTF???

Pitt vs Phi. is playoff hockey at its best.

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spice64
Boy My wings sure look good, If they stay healthy it should be theirs.  Goaltending is looking good, The d is playing d ,The third line is playing as well as one could wish. Datsyuk is blowing My mind. He is knocking guys twice his size on there arses and nobody can do anything about it. Hossa wants it bad. This should be alot of fun.

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