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I hunted a big hillside this morning that was recently cut-off. Lots of browse, huge muddy partly grown over logging trails etc., etc. Decent but not hot sign. I sat for an hour watching about 100 yards of logging road at first light and lost count of the woodcock flighting in and out. . .

Then I "still-hunted" the top and bottom of hill using the muddy logging roads-very quiet. I told myself I wasn't leaving the woods til i either saw or shot a deer.

At 8:30ish I found myself in an open area where the logging roads crossed and heard a slight sound-turned and saw a doe cross an open area less than 50 yards below me. Big, very light gray-ghost like. She was moving quickly-not running but hustling along and her mouth was half open-breathing heavy. I cross-haired her and kept an eye behind her. She could have been dead if I had a doe permit. I knew a buck had to be dogging her by the way she was acting. A stump was conveniently placed right there and I sat down and watched where she had crossed.

And watched, and watched, and watched. After 35 minutes my heart rate had returned to normal. I had seen my deer, got up and hunted back to the truck. :cool:

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Yeper....that is how it goes.

Why is it that a state like Me would have Doe and separate buck permits.

Does a buck cost more than a doe? is it a mgt tool...are there than many hunters who just take does in Me....

I would think it would stand to reason that one could buy a resident doe permit for x dollars then if you spend y on a buck you have earned the option to take a doe or buck withyour buck tag

Here in Oh you buy one tag its good for either.

That situation you spoke of is how my "rules" tainted brain has cost me...well I d liket to think I could have hit them several doe now.

the lord giveith and stupid dont accept.

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35 mintutes doesn't seem long enough if she were in heat.  A buck may wonder through an hour or two later, tracking her.

Yeah, I know I shoulda, coulda, woulda sat there for another hour or so but didn't. It is strangely warm at 50 degrees and figured she was overheating thus the open mouth. Plus I had to get home to deal with the board and work stuff.

Hmmmmm if I hurry back. . . . :<img src=:'>

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Michael Stenstrom

To bad he wasn't hot on her trail. Of course he might have noticed something she didn't and stopped chasing her to avoid the hunter's gaze.

For John, our tags give us the opportunity to take abuck, we can apply for adoe tag that allows us to take a doe in place of the buck.  It is a management tool as they vary the amount of doe permits available depending on deer densities in different management zones.  We do not have nearly the deer densities many other areas of the country have, actually most other areas of the country.

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I had a dream last night that went like this:

. . . turned and saw a doe cross an open area less than 50 yards below me. Big, very light gray-ghost like. She was moving quickly-not running but hustling along and her mouth was half open-breathing heavy. I cross-haired her and kept an eye behind her. She could have been dead if I had a doe permit. I knew a buck had to be dogging her by the way she was acting. A stump was conveniently placed right there and I sat down and watched where she had crossed. About 10 minutes went by and I heard a clicky grunt and almost immediately a buck appeared in the opening, nose to the ground like a hound dog. He looked up just as I got the cross hairs on his shoulder and he took one bound before I could squeeze the trigger. I swung with him and when I found brown I fired. I could hear him crashing away but couldn't see him. I followed his travel and found blood, lots of it and found a nice 8 pt buck piled up less than 50 yards away.

Problem with dreams is there wasn't no buck hanging in my tree when I got up this morning. :(  :D

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I'll be leaving for work shortly. A bit early. Cheryl called and reported a four point buck along the road in Vermont with shattered left side hind foot. The hoof is just hanging by threads and is very bloody. Don't know if it's a car injury, coyote or a shot at a running deer. But if there is any way to find it, it's a legal deer in Vermont and taking out an injured one, before winter kills it, seems better than letting it suffer.

I'll let you know what happens.

Alan

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I'll be leaving for work shortly. A bit early. Cheryl called and reported a four point buck along the road in Vermont with shattered left side hind foot. The hoof is just hanging by threads and is very bloody. Don't know if it's a car injury, coyote or a shot at a running deer. But if there is any way to find it, it's a legal deer in Vermont and taking out an injured one, before winter kills it, seems better than letting it suffer.

I'll let you know what happens.

Alan

Keep us posted. If its not raining and Cheryl gave good directions you might find a blood trail.

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Keep us posted. If its not raining and Cheryl gave good directions you might find a blood trail.

Man, Bradford! You have been like a Mr. Joe Hunter guide dude on here lately! Deer/yotes/birds...It's awesome...

Very much good luck, Alan...A noble thing. I hope you are successful, for all parties concerned. Good luck!

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You have been like a Mr. Joe Hunter guide dude on here lately! Deer/yotes/birds...

I read it all in books. . . :<img src=:'>

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UPDATE:

Alan just called me and wanted me to post an update. He found the injured buck a short distance off the road and put it out of its misery. Severely shattered rear leg likely from a car accident. Hard to tell how the meat will be after the stress it went through but knowing Alan he will utilize what he can. It was in Vermont so he can still deer hunt in NH.

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Hi guys and gals,

Well, I'm here at work now. The buck is at the processor, the hide is being sent out for tanning and the small rack will go in my mancave. Not sure yet if I want to do anything with the skull with antlers attached. This poor deer was in trouble. I found him resting under a tree in the small patch of woods bordering the Connecticut River. I confirmed with binos that the rack was legal, and pressured him just enough to make him get up so I could identify him as the injured animal. I now believe that the injury was gunshot induced. The left hind foot was simply swinging free by hide skin due to the shattered leg just above what we would think of as our wrist.

The deer moved off about fifteen yards and stood quartering away from me at about 45 yards. I held behind his rib cage. A single shot put him down with the bullet exiting the front left shoulder. I had a moment of deep concern as he attempted to run twenty yards and disappeared over the river bank. It's steep terrain there and I didn't want to lose him into the river.

Luck played a part and I found him with only his head draped over the bank and the rest of his body on solid ground. The processor does not believe that the injury will cause any problems to the meat judging by what he can see.

There was no blood trail as the wound was old enough to have dried up and clotted. The rain even held off until I had him loaded in the truck and was on the way to the registration station.

I was saddened by the entire event, but will honor the buck with every meal that he offers and be thankful that his suffering is over. I will add a couple of photos tomorrow.

Regards,

Alan

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