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Briarscratch
Larry, are refuting the sacredness of THE CODE???

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Flairball
Larry, are refuting the sacredness of THE CODE???

Brad didnt give me no code.  :angry:  I live on the wrong side of the tracks, ya know.

I think the emphasis should be on the sacredness of friendship, not secret spots. I hunt almost exclusively alone, but share my spots with my friends, whom I've grown very close to. We've had some fantastic hunts together over the last decade. On occasions when they're hunting without me I enjoy knowing that they're enjoying themselves. And if they're doing it where I put them, even better.

I won't hunt with just anyone. I have politely declined lots of invites, tactfully avoided queries as to when I'd take someone hunting, and on a couple of occasions declared that I'd never hunt with someone again. When someone is in, however, I go all in.

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Briarscratch
I'd say you're lucky to have some very good friends and I applaud your generosity.

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Virgil Kane

Larry are you looking for an invite?  :)  My coverts aren't that good but we can hunt behind my long legged beagle if you wish. :D And you can call me Don so that we're on a first name basis.

The coverts I hunt are on public land and are free to anyone. I'd be happy to show you where I hunt if you want to meet me there. Over the years I have taken many people out to "my spots" that were staying at the resort I was at and were looking to do some hunting. I was happy to do it and would do it again but never once did I run into them again at those spots. I really wouldn't care if I showed you "my spots" and you hunted them without me but would be a little bent if I went to hunt that spot and you were there showing 4 other guys "your new spot" at the same time. Kind of like how bent I was when I found one of my "friends" in bed with my then soon to be X and the same "friend" that had 4 other guys at the covert I had shown him the year before. Guess he thought that "friends" shared a little more than I was willing to.

I've helped plenty of people out over the years and was happy to do so BUT if I get pooped on that's the end of the help. As far as friends, well I can say that over the years I have only had 3 true friends that I could share anything and everything with and not get taken advantage of and I'm sorry to say that none of them are or were hunters.

This could be the start of a new friendship for me and you if you can put up with me not hunting your spots unless you ask me to go with.  :p  Just be forewarned that I don't call everybody "friend", it has to be earned. Until that time everybody is just an acquaintance in my eyes and not worthy of me sharing everything with.

Honoring "The Code"  :blues:

Virgil (but you can call me Don)

BTW this is all in fun.

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Flairball

Thanks for the invite Don. Perhaps one day we will get the chance to hunt together.

But one thing; if I show you my spots, you better hunt them without me. Someone has got to kill those birds. :<img src=:'>

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Virgil Kane
I can't promise I can kill any birds Larry, I'm a terrible shot  :down:

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Bob Blair
Wow! I just can't believe how people who would deny that they were A-holes would out themselves here on this thread so blatantly! We complain that our way of life is dying but many apparently like it that way so they can get more of what they consider theirs exclusively. A new hunter reading this stuff would be very discouraged at the expressed attitudes of his so-called brother sportsmen.

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Briarscratch

Wow! I just can't believe how people who would deny that they were A-holes would out themselves here on this thread so blatantly! We complain that our way of life is dying but many apparently like it that way so they can get more of what they consider theirs exclusively. A new hunter reading this stuff would be very discouraged at the expressed attitudes of his so-called brother sportsmen.

Easy for you to say Bob.  Not many people are going to fly all the way to Hawaii to hit your top secret spots.

Signed,

An Apparent A-Hole Who Unrepentantly Guards the Places He Holds Dear From Interweb Googans.

PS - regarding your concerns that new hunters may be discouraged from entering the sport, I'd like to direct you to this thread.

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Flairball
Wow! I just can't believe how people who would deny that they were A-holes would out themselves here on this thread so blatantly! We complain that our way of life is dying but many apparently like it that way so they can get more of what they consider theirs exclusively. A new hunter reading this stuff would be very discouraged at the expressed attitudes of his so-called brother sportsmen.

I dont think we have (m)any A-holes here. People have their concerns, whether right or wrong. Discussing them here is how we reach understandings.

For example, there are no ruffed grouse in Hawaii, so you've got to understand your not really hunting any cover anyone would want to find.  :p

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wkburns
There are more covers than just ruffed grouse covers guys. Hawaii has some descent bird hunting for quail, pheasant and even Chukar on some of the ranches. One thing that does bother me is how it is OK to post what town you are in while hunting prairie birds but it is not OK with ruffed grouse.

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Bob Blair

Seventeen species of gamebirds.....happy to hook you up any time. My favorite few spots are in Missouri, Kansas and Nebraska and I'd be happy to get you to those as well.

I just think the danger to anyone's spot from posting a PE on this site is minimal and there are significant over reactions occurring in this thread. In fact, I'd never even thought of scouting that way before I read this.......maybe I should check out the search function here for clues to those really pristine areas where the birds are crowded in wing to wing.

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Missed Again!
I just think the danger to anyone's spot from posting a PE on this site is minimal.........

There was a topic, once, that mentioned the closest town to one of my hunting areas and then, in another topic, named a specific area near that town.  There's no doubt some sharp eyed Internet scouters noticed that info.  There's been an increase in non-residents hunting there in the last two years.

I work hard to find good hunting spots, spending hundreds of hours and lots of $ on gas, etc. scouting those areas and figuring out the best way to hunt them.  I do share some of them with friends, but I've been burned a few times, too.  I took one guy to a good spot and later heard from another guy that he'd been taken there by the guy I showed it to. The guy I showed it to told that guy he'd found a new spot and it was great hunting!  Nice of him to share my spot with others!

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River19

I guess it comes down to, to each his own.  Has the advent of forums made the old “diner chatter” into a more global discussion?  Sure.  Can it burn you when someone other than you has also been hunting a spot and gives away too much detail, maybe enough detail for others to find it, sure.  But guess what, if someone else is blabbing about “your” spot, it really isn’t “yours” and probably is being hunted by a number of people.  Does it suck, yup.  Is it the new reality, evidently.

Personally, I stopped posting PEs for a couple years for a few reasons and this year I just don’t give a ****, if someone can identify the trees in the pictures I post and want to hunt there, more power to you.  I’m pretty careful about what I post and what the pictures are for several reasons, but I don’t over think the whole thing either.

We lose covers every year, development has eaten a few, two classic covers are for sale at the moment, etc.  so I add new ones every year, and I enjoy that part of hunting.  I now have enough places to poke around to literally hunt a new spot every day for the whole season if I wanted to, just takes gas and time.  

I guess my position ends up being, post PEs as much as you want, and I enjoy seeing them all as that is what changes every year on UJ, the discussions as mentioned before tend to be cyclical but the experiences are always new.  It may make sense to be more selective in the pics posted so as to not screw over the locals in the area we take trips to etc.  do unto others as you would like done to you. Like Phred, I can see every side of this discussion.

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ANF grousin
One thing that does bother me is how it is OK to post what town you are in while hunting prairie birds but it is not OK with ruffed grouse.

My user name and profile tell it all.  Only thing left would be to hold someones hand and take them right to a grouse perched on a tree waiting to be shot.

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Flairball
One thing that does bother me is how it is OK to post what town you are in while hunting prairie birds but it is not OK with ruffed grouse.

My user name and profile tell it all.  Only thing left would be to hold someones hand and take them right to a grouse perched on a tree waiting to be shot.

Right. I think too much of a big deal is made of this. Even if there is a clue one will still need to search out the cover that actually hold birds. It's not too easy to do in the grouse woods, and I cant believe it's that easy to do on the grass land. If it were that easy no one would need to Internet scout, and this wouldn't be an issue. So really, what's the deal?

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