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Why the Toyota Land Cruiser is Disappearing from America

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Cold Iron
On 11/8/2019 at 6:00 PM, Curt said:

I bought a new Land Cruiser, the 60 series in 1986.  Back then they were a far cry from the yuppie luxury rig they are today.  6 cylinders, floor mounted 4 speed stick, manual hubs, spartan interior.  When locked into four wheel drive it could go just about anywhere.  It was a cool vehicle, built like a tank but the highway ride was really stiff and the gas mileage was around 12 mpg.  Of course gas was cheap back then so it didn't matter much.  I wish now I had hung on to it.

 

Many feel the 80 series was the most off road capable of the wagons. But compared to the 50's and 60's they were HUGE! Wider. Longer. And heavier. The 60's were a lot nicer than the 50's in the comfort department but provided the same unstoppable off road abilities. The best of all, at least in my opinion. 

 

Bought a 77 FJ55 in the late 70's with ~12K on it when was stationed in the Puget Sound region of Wa. State with part of my first reenlistment bonus. Drove that thing all over the PNW and was young and invincible. Well the 55 was invincible anyhow. Still like white wagon wheels with red pinstripes.

 

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Headliner fell out eventually and replaced it with baby chit brown shag carpeting and cement. It worked. Also had a mattress in the back most of the times for camping, and well other things. Guys called it the shag rig. Females tended to call it the beast. Rough riding and hard to steer. Crude. But damn it went anywhere and everywhere.

 

Ended up down in Alameda, Ca. for a short time and took the USS Coral Sea around the world in 83. @bigjohnsd was staff on board for the Pacific leg. Flew back to get it and my worldly possessions- guns, reloading equipment, camping gear, etc. and drove it to the Tidewater, Va. area in less than 4 days. Mid 80's ended up getting stationed back "home" on recruiting duty and had Potter, Tioga and Bradford Counties for a few years. Ended up marrying a girl from Bradford County. First thing that went was the Beast. Sold it to a Sr. Chief Seabee that was getting transferred to Alaska.

 

24 years later she ended up leaving my sons and I to go find herself. Don't really miss her. But I sure as hell miss my Iron Pig.

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Crazy Setter

Always been a big fan of the Older Land Cruisers. In 2013 I was looking at the new ones. Very nice vehicles but too nice and could not justify all that nice and posh for a vehicle I was going to be hunting out of. 
 

I ended up getting a new FJ Cruiser. Much better choice for what I wanted to do with the vehicle and could not be happier. This will be the vehicle I will not ever get rid of. I could sell mine now for dang near what I paid for it 6 yers ago. 
 

If Toyota wants to increase sales of the Land Cruiser they need to strip it down some IMHO. Nice vehicles though. 

 

Olaf

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Chukarman

Interesting video... but IMO, not correct.

 

I was displaying several vehicles at our booth at SEMA last week. Among them were a nicely done 1978 Toyota Landcruiser FJ40 and one of our fleet - a 1993 70 Series inline 6 cylinder diesel in immaculate condition. A group from Toyota USA stopped by to visit and I asked about the future of the Landcruiser in the US market. I was told that they will introduce a new Landcruiser to the US market next year. They showed me photos of the new vehicle and I was impressed.

 

I am a huge fan of the Landcruiser since 1972... I have owned and driven extensively a 1972 FJ40, a 1987 FJ60, a 1996 FZJ80, a 2001 US version TLC, and about two years ago added a 1993 HZJ73 imported from Japan - a Japanese domestic market vehicle. All of these vehicles are tremendously capable. The later versions are also excellent over-the-road vehicles. Most Landcruisers sold in the USA are now sold wearing the Lexus badge - but they are Landcruisers none the less.

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SODAKer

I've always said if Toyota could put a Tacoma or LC on the road that gave you 27-30 mpg and not compromise the underlying fundamentals, a dealer wouldn't be able to keep them on the lot.  And for the life of me I can't figure out why they can't do that with the 4'Runner; course I'm not a engine/auto person. 

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stephen brown

Toyota is very conservative and hesitant to make changes. Introducing changes means introducing potential unreliability issues to a proven product line.  That's my view of Toyota and many Japanese companies. As a side, in the 1990's I was supporting software that BOJ intended to use for some project and they where willing to spend money for licensing software that was going unsupported in the next 10 years. They wanted a very stable platform and didn't want the headaches of migrating software every few years.

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Boss Hog

I’ve owned quite a few LC’s over the years. An FJ40, a couple of 55’s, an 80, and my favorite, an ‘84 FJ60. Simple, reliable, tough-as-nails go anywhere/do anything kinda rig. I hope what Chukarman says comes to fruition. But if it’s at $80k +, then I’ll keep leaking oil & manually shifting my ‘84...

 

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BradSouth

I have a 1996 80 series I picked up 2 years ago from a buddy that only has 67k miles on it and I love it but I think after having it for two years I will sell it and get a new 4runner I can't swallow 80K for a new one. Plus I also have a FJ with a MT and that thing is a mountain goat I may save my money and wait and get a 4runner and keep the LC I can't decide. I drove a 2019 LC and it didn't have car play yet but the 2020 will oh boy, hell in 2009 they still had cassette players in Lexus  

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Hammergun

My Black Friday purchase today:

with the scare that they may be discontinued I updated my 2013 Black Series 200 to a newer 2017 Silver one. All moved in and took it hunting now. 

 

 

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Dogwood

What'd ya do with the black one?

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Hammergun
5 minutes ago, Dogwood said:

What'd ya do with the black one?

Not for sure yet. I’m probably keeping it for another of our office vehicles for our company. But I may sell it. 

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northwoods

Several years into my second LC and still cannot imagine driving another vehicle.  It is a great daily driver on a long commute and to take folks around wearing suits and ties, but with the right tires (Goodrich T/A KO2s) it will also go anywhere my hunting and fishing finds me.  I did remove the third row seats and put in a drawer, but that and better tires are the only upgrades I have needed.  That said, ARB makes some fancy bumpers for the serious off-roader...

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becasse

Like many have already said, a more spartan version and/or better mpg would be ideal.  I've thought about buying a Japanese import (JDL) diesel but just haven't done it.  That being said I now have two LCs - a 1988 FJ62 in Freeborn Red and a 1997 FZJ80 in Green.  The FJ62 is in incredible condition with absolutely no rust save for one dime-sized spot on the rear hatch.  The undercarriage, interior, and exterior are incredible.  It came from Eastern Washington by way of Florida.  All original with 181K miles and runs great.  The 1997 has only 105K miles with a great interior and some minor dings/scratches on the exterior but everything works perfectly on it and it was fully maintained and one owner.  It does have rust underneath having spent time here in New England before I acquired it.  Both are tucked away for the winter.

 

I am considering parting with the FJ62 in the spring/summer as it is almost too nice to drive around, throw dogs in and do anything to compromise the condition.  If anyone is interested send me some PMs and I'll shoot you pictures.  I'll keep the FZJ80 and won't worry about where I park it or take it as it has enough minor battle scars and some rust to just drive it. 

 

My friend also left me his 1978 FJ40 to store and drive around during the summer. It's in great condition too, but is just so primitive in terms of steering and braking that I don't really like taking it anywhere but on local dirt roads.  They are all fun vehicles.  I think the FJ62 has the best look to it, but prefer the ride of the FZJ80.  Its a bad habit these LCs.  I find myself looking at 100 series LCs all the time.

 

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Brad Eden

My parents separated in 1976 and after years eventually divorced. My mother went through a bit of a rebellious stage in response and went and bought a new cherry red 1977 or 1978 Toyota Land Cruiser. I think it had a 6cyl engine and did have standard shift, 4x4 manual hubs etc., etc. it was a very cool. She had never driven a stick, so that was fun. I got to fool with it quite a bit haven just graduated high school and living at home and commuting to art school in Boston. I put that thing through its paces at local sand pits, often times after partying all night....it took a beating from me. I remember it as boxy and tippy, and geared very low. Not a commuter vehicle, but very beastly off road.

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Hammergun
9 minutes ago, Brad Eden said:

My parents separated in 1976 and after years eventually divorced. My mother went through a bit of a rebellious stage in response and went and bought a new cherry red 1977 or 1978 Toyota Land Cruiser. I think it had a 6cyl engine and did have standard shift, 4x4 manual hubs etc., etc. it was a very cool. She had never driven a stick, so that was fun. I got to fool with it quite a bit haven just graduated high school and living at home and commuting to art school in Boston. I put that thing through its paces at local sand pits, often times after partying all night....it took a beating from me. I remember it as boxy and tippy, and geared very low. Not a commuter vehicle, but very beastly off road.

What a great story of connection to the Iconic TLC FJ40. I graduated high school in 1978 and a friend of mines dad owned a liquor store and bought him a bright red FJ40 for his graduation present. I was pretty jealous at the time.
My dad gave me my great grandfathers Franz Merkel 16 bore side by side shotgun with buffalo horn trigger guard. Looking back I am glad I have the gun. But I coveted that 40. 

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