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Vet tells us today that our springer (not yet two) is going to need a TPLO for a torn cruciate ligament.  Rehab probably scratches all but the latest of the late season. Can’t seem to catch a break.  Strange thing is the vet tells me he used to see one of these a month, in older overweight dogs, but now sees at least three a week in much younger athletic breeds, so many that he has the specialist in every other week.  Something in the food now that wasn’t there before,  or something that used to be that isn’t anymore?  Doesn’t seem to be breed specific so probably not breeding/genetics.

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Wishing your pup the best.  My biggest concern always as a one dog owner is I'm one injury away from loosing an entire season of chasing little brown birds.  That would be a kick in the nads for both me and Sophie (although she doesn't have nads). 

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Thanks guys. We had him neutered at six months or so, when they recommended it. I haven't heard of any correlations to that yet, but will keep my eyes open.  Our last three dogs have been from good lines and we have had spinal problems in one, anemia in the next one, and now this in our new pup.  

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Thats crappy news. Hopes for good results and healing, *I’ve had a female Springer and a male Golden and two male Springers spayed or neutered at 6 months or so. All hunted hard in Maine covers. None ever suffered any serious injury like that. 

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Ray Gubernat
53 minutes ago, Longrifle said:

Thanks guys. We had him neutered at six months or so, when they recommended it. I haven't heard of any correlations to that yet, but will keep my eyes open.  Our last three dogs have been from good lines and we have had spinal problems in one, anemia in the next one, and now this in our new pup.  

 

I think you need to do more reading.  Neutering a juvenile dog can indeed interfere with the growth process, according to what I have read.  

 

Aside from an undescended testicle, there is no medical justification I can find for neutering a young male dog and the only other justification I have read for neutering a male dog is prostate issues or testicular cancer which typically only happens in senior dogs.  

 

Sorry to hear, but perhaps you should do some research on neutering before you follow the same path with your next dog.  Oh and if the dog blew the ligament on one side, it is fairly common for the dog to recover from that and blow the one o the other side, doubling the expense and down time.   

 

Question:  Was the dog with spinal  issues neutered early as well??

 

RayG

 

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, Longrifle said:

Thanks guys. We had him neutered at six months or so, when they recommended it. I haven't heard of any correlations to that yet, but will keep my eyes open.  Our last three dogs have been from good lines and we have had spinal problems in one, anemia in the next one, and now this in our new pup.  

Really sorry for what is going on with your pup.

They all seem to push spay and neuter way to  early even though there is a lot of research that says to wait.

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8 hours ago, Ray Gubernat said:

 

I think you need to do more reading.  Neutering a juvenile dog can indeed interfere with the growth process, according to what I have read.  

 

Aside from an undescended testicle, there is no medical justification I can find for neutering a young male dog and the only other justification I have read for neutering a male dog is prostate issues or testicular cancer which typically only happens in senior dogs.  

 

Sorry to hear, but perhaps you should do some research on neutering before you follow the same path with your next dog.  Oh and if the dog blew the ligament on one side, it is fairly common for the dog to recover from that and blow the one o the other side, doubling the expense and down time.   

 

Question:  Was the dog with spinal  issues neutered early as well??

 

RayG

 

 

 

 

The dog with the spinal issues was a Chessie, and 13 years old when it manifested.  He lived another year before it was debilitating.  He was neutered at 11 months after we got him back from training.  For ESS I’ve never heard a correlation, and post the following from veterinary frontiers: 

 

English Springer Spaniel

The study population was 52 intact males, 57 neutered males, 37 intact females, and 66 spayed females for a total sample of 212 cases. In males and females left intact, the occurrence of one or more joint disorders was 5 and 8 percent, respectively. Among males and females neutered at various ages, there were no noteworthy increases in joint disorders. The cancers followed occurred in the intact males and females at a 6 percent level, and neutering at any age was not associated with any evident increase in this measure in either sex. In intact females, MC was diagnosed in 6 percent, and for those spayed at 2–8 years, 15 percent. PYO was not reported in any of the intact females. Spaying females at 6–11 mo. was associated with a 13 percent occurrence of UI, which may have reached significance with a larger sample size. Lacking a noticeable occurrence of increased joint disorders or cancers in neutered males, those wishing to neuter should decide on the appropriate age. For females, given the increased risk of UI in those spayed before 1 year, the suggested guideline is to delay spaying until a year of age.

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Man that sucks. I hope there is a speedy recovery and you can make the end of the season. fortunately we have a long season here in N.C.

If you make it to the coast bring the guns and we can walk some behind mine anytime you want.

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