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21 hours ago, Ray Gubernat said:

... and the only other justification I have read for neutering a male dog is prostate issues or testicular cancer which typically only happens in senior dogs.  

 

Sorry to hear, but perhaps you should do some research on neutering before you follow the same path with your next dog. 

 

 

From an early neuterer perspective.


...outside of medical considerations, which are of course very important, some choose early neutering to try and avoid the obnoxious behaviors so often found in intact dogs, before they manifest themselves. And yes, there are undesirable behaviors that are prevalent in intact dogs. Not all, but most of those I come in contact with. Owners are often in denial or are just more tolerant than others. If that’s not an acceptable reason for early neutering, which it clearly isn’t for some, that’s up to the individual owner.
 

Many dog owners do their due diligence in researching before making a decision on neutering and timing. I did, and after consulting with my own vet, researching, and speaking with UJ vets, I decided to neuter my current dog early. No regrets, other than dealing with some backlash from neuter late or intact dog folks, and no serious complications for doing so.

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2 hours ago, Brad Eden said:

 

From an early neuterer perspective.


...outside of medical considerations, which are of course very important, some choose early neutering to try and avoid the obnoxious behaviors so often found in intact dogs, before they manifest themselves. And yes, there are undesirable behaviors that are prevalent in intact dogs. Not all, but most of those I come in contact with. Owners are often in denial or are just more tolerant than others. If that’s not an acceptable reason for early neutering, which it clearly isn’t for some, that’s up to the individual owner.
 

Many dog owners do their due diligence in researching before making a decision on neutering and timing. I did, and after consulting with my own vet, researching, and speaking with UJ vets, I decided to neuter my current dog early. No regrets, other than dealing with some backlash from neuter late or intact dog folks, and no serious complications for doing so.

This.  I’m not really in the mood to argue on the other topic, but if I had any, or my vet had any prior evidence that there were any increased health risks I would have acted on it.  As I said earlier my vet is a hunter, and knowledgeable, and I trust him.  I expect this is an injury caused by athletic activity in the yard chasing bumpers or balls.

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I'm feeling some of your worry. My three year old Lab just developed a lump this morning. With youth waterfowl day tomorrow and season a month away that leaves a lot on the 10 month old rookie pup....

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Ray Gubernat
On 10/2/2020 at 9:13 AM, Brad Eden said:

 

From an early neuterer perspective.


...outside of medical considerations, which are of course very important, some choose early neutering to try and avoid the obnoxious behaviors so often found in intact dogs, before they manifest themselves. And yes, there are undesirable behaviors that are prevalent in intact dogs. Not all, but most of those I come in contact with. Owners are often in denial or are just more tolerant than others. If that’s not an acceptable reason for early neutering, which it clearly isn’t for some, that’s up to the individual owner.
 

Many dog owners do their due diligence in researching before making a decision on neutering and timing. I did, and after consulting with my own vet, researching, and speaking with UJ vets, I decided to neuter my current dog early. No regrets, other than dealing with some backlash from neuter late or intact dog folks, and no serious complications for doing so.

 

Brad/Longrifle -

My only perspective on the subject was the medical one.  My dogs are all outside dogs, so any obnoxious behaviors are for their kennel mates to deal with.    If they are becoming a PIA, they go back into their kennel.  Done.

 

If the dog is in the house, that is a whole different level, and  folks must do what they need to do. 

 

Sorry for any misunderstanding.

 

RayG

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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That's terrible, and I can certainly emphasize! I've got not one but two who may miss the season. Wishing your pooch the best!

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I would advise against TPLO surgery. I had this happen to 2 dogs and they both hunted many years without the surgery. I met a person who was a nutrition specialist for animals. She told me to get a horse supple this for horses that contained glucosamine and MSM. The horse supplement has much more glucosamine and MSM than the dog doses. She told me that you can’t overdose a dog and that it would lubricate the joint and keep the dog out of pain. Within a couple of months, we were hunting at full speed. After the season, I told the vet what I did. He told me that the extra joint lubrication bought time and the knee capsules thickened to triple the normal thickness. The knee capsules stabilized the knee did the work that the ligament was doing.

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Update: we are in the recovery phase.  The interior cruciate ligament was completely torn, so there weren’t a lot of choices, and there was some meniscus damage, but prognosis is good, and after five days we are leash walking and doing well.  I have a supplement regimen to try and keep the other side from a repeat.  I take glucosamine and condroiten and find it helps, and have a local maker of the same supplements for dogs.  An acquaintance works there and they have high quality standards, so we’ll see how it goes.  Glued incision with dissolving staples, first day without a cone.  Some whimpering first two days, vet said to expects it due to anesthesia effects.  Cleared up after that, holding weight now.

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The rehab has been a trial, but tomorrow should be the final appointment.  Had some recurring fever issues and episodes of not using the leg.  Vet stated at one point the apparatus might have to come out, but after extended antibiotics the dog is back to using the leg, normal appetite, and no more fever.  What a misery this has been.  Starting supplements to see if we can avoid another one.  Walks are getting long enough to the point we might try some limited training after tomorrow’s OK.

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I feel bad for what your going through, it’s a long process having gone through it last year with my GSP it was a long 16 weeks!

Everything turned out ok, but not to get you upset or anything they the Vet and others  told me to be ready for the other leg, I didn’t want to believe it but guess what, that’s  wright just had surgery on her other leg Monday.

Two hunting season down the drain, but good news, She my GSP “Zoli” know’s the routine, when I brought her home she went wright where she was kept for most of the 16 weeks last year.
Good luck!

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marysburg

Rotten luck for Zoli, I hope she recovers just as well with her second leg.  One of my Britts had 2 knee surgeries one year plus one week  apart, both for ruptured knee joint capsule and patellar ligament where it joins to the tibia.  I think the second recovery went better than the first one, and so did the rehab.  Good luck with your journey.

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5 hours ago, marysburg said:

Rotten luck for Zoli, I hope she recovers just as well with her second leg.  One of my Britts had 2 knee surgeries one year plus one week  apart, both for ruptured knee joint capsule and patellar ligament where it joins to the tibia.  I think the second recovery went better than the first one, and so did the rehab.  Good luck with your journey.

Thank you, so it’s been 5 days after surgery and she has responded better then the first time, hopping to get the same result as you did with your Britt. 

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