boltonguy Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Hi, I'm evaluating a 550 Plus. The unit I am evaluating is NIB. First thing I did was install Garmin Express on my PC and updated s/w for both handheld and collar. Twice now I have taken my dog out in a familiar area for 3+ hours. Each time I find that the handheld "loses" north. When that happens, the dog indicator points in the 'wrong' direction, but if I orient the north indicator to what I know is north by rotating the handheld (compass verified) the indicator arrow does point to the dog. So the device is correctly pointing to the dog, it just has north wrong so it looks like its not pointing to the dog. Holding the handheld in front of me with the antennae to the horizon and the north indicator is wrong. Distance to the dog is correct. I am carrying the handheld in my left jacket pocket with the antennae sticking up and out of the pocket. Over half the time I take it out of the pocket it has lost north and no amount of walking forward in a straight line with it held horizontally fixes it. I have re-calibrated it several times during the last outing and each time it finds north, indicates the dog correctly then it goes back in my pocket and half the time it comes out it has lost north again. I have a Garmin GPS and it never has this issue. One time this morning I re-calibrated it three times and then it wouldn't re-calibrate any more so I powered off/on the handheld and it came on indicating north correctly. Garmin support is closed on weekends - wanted to check to see if anyone else is experiencing this behavior or if your handheld consistently indicates north correctly? Thanks! David Link to post Share on other sites
boltonguy Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 Here’s an example from yesterday. Dog is straight ahead of me, distance would be correct. If I were to rotate the handheld so that the north indicator pointed north the arrow would point right at the dog. didn’t have the GPS with me today and same behavior so I don’t think the GPS is interfering and somehow causing the problem Link to post Share on other sites
boltonguy Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 Hunting jacket front pockets have magnetic closures. Wore the same jacket both days. Will go out again Tuesday wearing my strap vest and see if that is it. Link to post Share on other sites
Spin1 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 I've never had an issue with mine(first season with it), but as a guess, I would think that being in a pocket with magnetic closures could be a problem. I always hook mine to a strap with a leather holster and let it hang. Link to post Share on other sites
boltonguy Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 Yeah I’ll check that out. The magnetic closures didn’t have any effect on the GPS in the other pocket but maybe they have different compass mechanisms Link to post Share on other sites
sidelock Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, boltonguy said: Hunting jacket front pockets have magnetic closures. Wore the same jacket both days. Will go out again Tuesday wearing my strap vest and see if that is it. Not sure if magnets can interefe with electronic compas. Link to post Share on other sites
boltonguy Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 It was the magnetic closures on the pockets FYI. Went out today for 2+ hours and was always accurate on direction and distance to dog. Pointing indication seemed a bit hit or miss so will check that out again tomorrow. Appreciate the feedback/input! Link to post Share on other sites
snapt Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I've warrantied 3 units now and finally have one that mostly works. My first unit the direction was pretty accurate but it quit working altogether. The second unit was neither accurate nor would the collar and handheld communicate very often. I finally have a unit that links up every time and the distance is accurate but the direction is either lagging way behind or plain inaccurate. I tell direction by if the distance is getting shorter or further as I walk in on a point. Annoying but it makes do and I'm sure Garmin would replace the units yet again if I asked. I've talked to a lot of folks who've had issues with this model and a friend runs a local bike shop and it seems Garmin's issues extend well into that sector as well. I really like the design and simplicity of the 550 pro but wish it was more consistent. YMMV. Link to post Share on other sites
grouse28 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I spoke with Garmin some weeks ago about the magnetic closures and was told that it would affect the compass. Was given no reason why that would be with an electronic compass. Link to post Share on other sites
mccuha Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I know this is a 550 topic but have a question some of you are talking about. My hunting partner has an alpha. It never fails that several times in a week long hunt his alpha will say his dog is in one direction but it is actually the totally opposite direction. It’s been doing it for years. Is this a handheld problem or could there be a magnetic problem that’s causing it. He’s in the process of buying a new one. What do you think Link to post Share on other sites
bobman Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I’m wishing I didn’t just order the 550 plus this week haven’t got it yet should get it tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites
BIRDDOG 307 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Bobman do not worry about the 550 plus you just ordered. I have been using mine about everyday for a year and never had a issue finding my dogs or their direction. The 550 plus and the Instinct watch are what I hunt with. Birddog 307 Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Connally Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 On 11/24/2020 at 10:35 PM, boltonguy said: It was the magnetic closures on the pockets FYI. Went out today for 2+ hours and was always accurate on direction and distance to dog. Pointing indication seemed a bit hit or miss so will check that out again tomorrow. Appreciate the feedback/input! I had the same issue. On my first hunt with it I had to carry it in my back game pocket. Yesterday I cut the magnets out of one pocket and carried it there. That fixed it. Link to post Share on other sites
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