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We had a French setter for the day at our house today.     Bentley our youngest English Setter was dressed in a neckerchief and beret for Addison’s birthday. She’s going into eighth

Tag my Braque Francais.  Not sure she's an odd breed necessarily.  But she acts odd now and then.

There are a ton of great labs and pointers on here. Love to see the springers and setters.    But how about a photo thread of some odd breeds?    For instance, this weekend I met m

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Went for a quick hunt today and while I was sitting on the tailgate drinking a cold snack, a guy pulls up to talk. I never see anyone besides elk hunters. He says he’s looking for grouse. I ask what kind of dog he has and he say “Clumber Spaniel”. Never seen one before. Cool dog. 

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RE Clumber Spaniels A few years ago our RGS chapter held a "fun trial" in the spring. A nice young couple which nobody had seen before showed up with a brace of Clumbers. They were beautiful spaniels but had heavy coats and were BIG; they probably weighted ~ 60 pounds. One of them had the misfortune to be braced with our Rocky, a FBECS, less than 2YO, and  full of fire and brimstone. We started down the course and the Clumber stayed right in front of his handler and moved at a speed that might be described as a "slow trot". Maybe he was hunting or maybe not. I shot a bird and then the other handler shot one. The Clumber started for the bird on the other side of the course, but it wasn't close.  Rocky dashed over, scooped the bird up and brought it back to hand. It continued like that for the entire course. The other Clumber did the same. I have never seen one in the grouse woods. 

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I retired from my dog Training practice some six years ago. I still have nightmares about the Clumbers I have worked with. Natty mentioned the pace that the dog worked at, My guess He was witnessing a " fast one". I aged a decade during the six years I spent training the Clumbers in the Mid-West/ we had a saying around the training center There is" Spaniel time" and then there is "Clumber Time"

 

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I used to shoot skeet with a guy who hunted ducks and grouse and doves with an Australian Cattle Dog.  I never saw him work grouse, but he was a great duck retriever.

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7 hours ago, Hal Standish said:

I retired from my dog Training practice some six years ago. I still have nightmares about the Clumbers I have worked with. Natty mentioned the pace that the dog worked at, My guess He was witnessing a " fast one". I aged a decade during the six years I spent training the Clumbers in the Mid-West/ we had a saying around the training center There is" Spaniel time" and then there is "Clumber Time"

 

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I had a friend who took in rescue dogs who had a Clumber. Big all white male, former show bred who for one reason or the other was cut loose from his owner. I don't know if he had any prey drive but he was a beautiful dog.

     Like St Bernard's they almost universally have dysplastic hips, however having the loose hip joints just doesn't seem to bother them. Due to the disgusting slaughter of his father's kennel of the largest breeding group of Clumbers in the world By Prince Edward, they suffer from a quite small gene pool and Edwards father the King was an enthusiastic hunter and bred his dogs for talent in the bird field. A huge blow to the Clumber.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/11367411/clumber-massacre/

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2 minutes ago, Spin said:

I had a friend who took in rescue dogs who had a Clumber. Big all white male, former show bred who for one reason or the other was cut loose from his owner. I don't know if he had any prey drive but he was a beautiful dog.

     Like St Bernard's they almost universally hap dysplastic hips, however having the loose hip joints just doesn't seem to bother them. Due to the disgusting slaughter of his father's kennel of the largest breeding group of Clumbers in the world By Prince Edward, they suffer from a quite small gene pool and Edwards father the King was an enthusiastic hunter and bred his dogs for talent in the bird field. A huge blow to the Clumber.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/11367411/clumber-massacre/

 

One our Spaniel buying of the trips to the UK spent a weekend Rae Furness of Raycroft Kennel

http://www.clumberspanielclub.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/raes_tribute.pdf

 

Nice lady and knowledgeable of Sporting dogs, but she could not convince me. The dysplasia is not is not even a concern among most of the Clumber fanciers I have ever met and that is just plain scary.

 

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This dogs coat must have been a nightmare to maintain. They hadn’t even been hunting yet and it was full of debris. 

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On 9/13/2021 at 10:15 PM, DAG said:

This dogs coat must have been a nightmare to maintain. They hadn’t even been hunting yet and it was full of debris. 

I understand your Pain. We spaniel types have a love affair with our lil dogs Taking care of such stuff is just part of the commitment we make to our lil dogs

 

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Not so odd around here but maybe in the YS.  This is Brie French Setter  (aka French Spaniel).  3nd pict is with her 1st p pheasant at 11 months old.  A joy to hunt over and super around the house.

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I am probably a Philistine, but I have never understood the 'need' for a weird or unusual breed for bird hunting. Not when there are plenty of setters, pointers, and yes, even Britannies available. Just me, I guess.

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1 hour ago, Chukarman said:

I am probably a Philistine, but I have never understood the 'need' for a weird or unusual breed for bird hunting. Not when there are plenty of setters, pointers, and yes, even Britannies available. Just me, I guess.

Via trita, via tuta. On the other hand if you can have only one dog and enjoy both upland and waterfowl hunting then some of the so called versatile (pointing) breeds may fit the bill. Even so I believe the safest way is to have specialist for different purposes. I might still add that to me the perfect versatile breed is the field bred english springer spaniel. 

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18 minutes ago, Jalo said:

On the other hand if you can have only one dog and enjoy both upland and waterfowl hunting then some of the so called versatile (pointing) breeds may fit the bill. 

This (above quote) is why I got interested in versatile breed many years ago, after having setters, GSPs, and Labs (not that they can't be/aren't versatile in their own right.)  I appreciate a good example of any of the bird hunting breeds and can be tempted in that breeds direction when I do see a good one.  But my wife has insisted of late, that IF I have to have a hunting dog, I can only have one.  We've had such great experiences with Large Munsterlanders, that she is afraid to switch to any other breed (we've had some dogs over our 40+ years together that have been pain-in-the-rear dogs, either by temperment, health issues, etc.) 

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