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bennelli-banger

Still lots of public land in MT, ND, SD, MN…perhaps IA, too.   Hunt Tue-Fri after the seasons been open 3-4 weeks and crops are out if you don’t want competition…stay away from bigger towns…it can be done, nothing is guaranteed.

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The more people who are willing to pay a trespass fee, the more private land will be off-limits to local hunters.

I've knocked on doors in MT, OR, WA, CA. Never been asked to pay a trespass fee. If you are knocking cold calls you might be asked because they don't know you from Adam. If I can say that a neighbor o

In every state hunting regulation booklet there’s a section with a reminder to respect private property and the safety and sensibility of landowners. Got no problem with that.    I just wish th

bennelli-banger

BTW, I know no less than 10 farm families that are trying to bring another family into the operation…the 3rd generation in some cases…try to pencil it out…health insurance at 15k annually (or more) is just the start…land rent at $200+ per acre, fuel, seed, fertilizer, equipment, crop insurance, etc, etc…sure, there are some safety nets, but $ ain’t falling from the trees!!!   It easily costs $500/acre to grow corn when you’re renting ground…this year, they’re hoping to get 100 bushels…corn was at $7, doubt it is now…$5.50?   Storing it isn’t free…you may need an 80k bin, or, pay the elevator…then you’re rolling the dice…

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 If you are willing to pay, then the next stranger, old family friend or neighbor must be too. Thank God for Montana's BMA program.

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I know many farmers that do pay-to-hunt deals early in the season…after week

3, 4 or whatever, not the case…. just my experience.   Most of their hunters come from a fair distance away, and have been hunting these farms for a long time…and these hunters are pretty aware of the financial realities of farming, and probably wouldn’t hunt for free if it was offered.   Again, for those that have the time and inclination, plenty of doors to knock on, and plenty of public land to explore.   I wish the trend was different, too…

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8 hours ago, Doubleplay said:

 However when you drive from East Coast and have limited time it's harder to waste time to knocking on doors. That's why we always try to set up something ahead and don't mind paying a little or hunt public land. I wish we had more time to knock on doors.

 

Time talking to people isn’t wasted, it’s part of the experience.

 

Don’t buy your birds.
 

Hunt for them.

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To that I would add that bird hunting is not a run-and-gun contest or a competition with time. If you get ONE perfect moment per season, you will retire with many sweet memories.

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The reality is you’d have a tough time getting on good land as a duo…these outfits are often set up for groups…do the math, especially knowing how few weekends there are…not saying it can’t be done.   Then there’s the other issue…are you hunting wild birds?   In many cases you’re not…lots of private operations do this…not just preserves/game farms.

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3 minutes ago, bennelli-banger said:

Then there’s the other issue…are you hunting wild birds?   In many cases you’re not…lots of private operations do this…not just preserves/game farms.

 

But if I can post a big pile of dead birds on Facegram, the mission has been accomplished, right?

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Just now, caleb said:

 

But if I can post a big pile of dead birds on Facegram, the mission has been accomplished, right?

Not my style, just passing on what goes on.   If a guy travels a long way and does that, without realizing it, I’m not sure what to call him…hunter?  Shooter? Not sure.   But most of the time they’re not aware…again, not really “hunting” to me.

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8 hours ago, bennelli-banger said:

The reality is you’d have a tough time getting on good land as a duo…these outfits are often set up for groups…do the math, especially knowing how few weekends there are…not saying it can’t be done.   Then there’s the other issue…are you hunting wild birds?   In many cases you’re not…lots of private operations do this…not just preserves/game farms.

Another indictment of fee hunting...promotes release of tame birds.

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On the other hand, thank god there are operations out there that offer “lay up” style hunting/shooting, which keeps these guys fulfilled and content, keeping them off of public land, and also, from being competing door knockers!   Just like casinos, malls, bars, golf courses, bowling alleys, football stadiums, strip joints, churches, TV’s, internet, etc…😆

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There’s a limit to how many birds a particular chunk can produce, and also, some operators have realized that they can farm most of their ground, leave some strips of corn standing which they release birds into, and the result is a quick, easy hunt for these mostly dogless “hunters”…not all are like this, many are.

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On 9/28/2021 at 10:08 PM, bennelli-banger said:

The reality is you’d have a tough time getting on good land as a duo…these outfits are often set up for groups…do the math, especially knowing how few weekends there are…not saying it can’t be done.   Then there’s the other issue…are you hunting wild birds?   In many cases you’re not…lots of private operations do this…not just preserves/game farms.

We don't hunt anything but wild birds and have 40 years experience to tell one from the other! Specially the pheasants with holes on their beaks.

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On 9/28/2021 at 9:52 PM, caleb said:

 

Time talking to people isn’t wasted, it’s part of the experience.

 

Don’t buy your birds.
 

Hunt for them.

Do you think hunting private lands for wild birds are buying?  Wow just wow! In my 40 years of hunting I've never heard that. So if I go hunt Maine Paper company land (which I did) with a gate access fee am I buying birds?

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47 minutes ago, Doubleplay said:

Do you think hunting private lands for wild birds are buying?  Wow just wow! In my 40 years of hunting I've never heard that. So if I go hunt Maine Paper company land (which I did) with a gate access fee am I buying birds?

Do you have any concerns that the paper companies are buying pen raised ruffed grouse and releasing them in hopes of repeat gate fee business? Are you seeing paper companies take government subsidies to improve the landscape (and the bird production), only to then lease it out to the highest bidder?

 

Pheasants and mallards drive behaviors different than every other game bird in North America.

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